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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2001 - 10:16 pm:   

:) I have a few problems that I can't seem to fix by myself or find answers too, and was just wondering if any of you knew :) Any help that anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated.

Drive layout:

Disk 0 (19.10GB) partitions:
- 6.73GB fat32 system partition [C:]
- 1.36GB unallocated space
- 11.02 ntfs boot partition [E:]

Disk 1 (7.87GB) partitions:
- 3.91GB fat active partition [D:]
- 3.95GB unallocated space

First, as you can see on disk 0 there is that unallocated space right in the middle. I just formatted this disk and every time I try 2 format it, it either freezes at 36% or just before it finishes. I've narrowed it down to that part in the middle, anything inside of it I cannot format. Is this a disk problem that can be fixed somehow (what I would like is to make that whole disk just 1 partition and make it just skip that whole section), or will it be like this forever?

Biggest problem---> Next, before I installed win2k, I backed up all my stuff onto disk 1. And now, when I access it, it lists 512 files all with 2 character names like y± and , and all files are around 60kb in size. I really really need by stuff back, any suggestions on what is going on?

Just a few miscellaneous things as well. For win2k, does the first partition on it (where it installs boot information or whatever), have 2 be fat32 or fat (I would have installed windows on it but it is a little to small for me), because it won't let me do ntfs? And I swear that the first partition on disk 1 was fat32 instead of just fat. I remember that when I was installing win2k it showed the partition as fat32, but y is it showing it as fat if it is fat32? And for some reason I am thinking that fat does not support partitions larger that 2GB or something around there, that could explain the reason that it is messing that files up, because it thinks that partition is fat instead of fat32 but then again, y is it doing that?

Any thing that I forgot to mention or any questions you want to know to help me figure out these problems just ask :), again, any help would be appreciated.
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 4:27 pm:   

The reason why you have unallocated space because you have to leave some space left for windows.

for example: YOUR DISK 0 19.1 GB

6.73GB C, 11.02 is E, 1.35 is for

do the same thing for DISK 1
TRY THAT and see what happen.
V (Vera)
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 4:55 pm:   

did you fdisk drive 0?
enable lba
make your partition and set it to be active
format c/s
install windows
hopefully you can still access your saved data
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 11:52 pm:   

Little update :) Guess I wasn't all that clear on my problem. The unallocated space space has nothin 2 do with windows, because when i was formattin it, it was put into a different system and formatted, I've tried diskpart and other stuff like partition magic but it just won't format :( o well.

But on the next disk, I have started getting errors about invalid clusters and cross-linked files, any clue how to clear those up?

and a little confused (don't know all that much :) ) like lba, sorta know what it is and just assuming it's enabled (but then u know what u do when u assume) and format c/s?? no clue, again, any suggestions are appreciated.

V (Vera)
Posted on Monday, October 1, 2001 - 6:36 am:   

fdisk wipes everything off the drive including partitions.
you may see an option to get rid of non-dos partitions (to remove ntfs)
lba is large block access (fat 32)to use the entire drive for one partition
make your partiiton active for the boot drive
follow the prompts and make your choices
exit out of fdisk
reboot for the changes to take effect

with the boot disk in the floppydrive
format the harddrive ( _=space not to be typed)
the /s switch copies the system files from the floppy to the c: drive so the harddrive can boot

here you will find info for deleting ntfs partition, if you should have trouble getting rid of it with fdisk


also other good nt info here

for the second disk , do a scandisk on it and see if it helps

i haven't used partition magic,you may be able to remove the partitions with it i don't know. maybe someone else out there can comment on it.

i'm not familiar with win nt so i can't say if you'll be able to access your saved data ( is the data saved from your win nt installation) with a fat 32 partition

hope this helps
Posted on Sunday, October 7, 2001 - 12:13 am:   

Try "delpart" for removing just about ANY partition. You can get it from Microsoft as part of the WinNT 3.1 resource kit here:

Or you can do a search on "delpart" and download it from wherever. It's freely available.

Boot to dos and run delpart.exe, it's pretty self-explanatory. Then run fdisk and make the drive one big fat32 partition. Presto!
matthew chapman
Posted on Thursday, November 8, 2001 - 12:07 am:   

I recently tried to format a single drive, with partition magic, one for Win98 onre for Win2k.
I wanted 15 & 5 gig, but PM tried to set a @ 1.5 gig unformatted partition between the two as I wanted both bootable. In the end I gave up.
Get a copy of norton Ghost and a CD Wroter - Backup any thing using that .
I ahve also had disk sector errors recently with IBM disks - go to the IBM Website and down load the Disk Manager Software (DM955) available as a 2meg Download Boot disk.
Use this to low level format (writes zeros to it) and health check the disk. Follow through the option menus - disk may need DDO (or not).
This is the only thing that worked - but it took @ 4 hours on a 6.5 gig drive.
As for getting your files back, I have never had that issue, but it does sound like a serious problem.
Suggest set up disk 1 copy the files over to that, then set up disk 0 and see what happens.

Hope this helps a little.

You need help
Posted on Tuesday, October 7, 2003 - 7:24 pm:   

For Pumasyst: If you are using Microsoft Windows 2000 (any version) or Windows XP (Pro or Home).
Unallocated space on a hard drive is a space that is not partition and high level formatted for use to store data. In order to use your unallocated on both of your hard drives (disk 0 and disk 1). Just follow these steps.
1. Click Start
2. Go to settings (If you are using XP: Click start, then control panel)
3. Click control panel
4. Double Administrative Tools
5. Click Computer Management
6. When you open Computer Management, a window will open, and you will see two column. On the left will label Computer Management (local)
and on the right a list of names (system tools, storage, etc...)
7.On the left column click Disk Management
8.On the right you will see all of your drives (there information such as space, status, and even your CD drives)
Now i Believe you should see two unallocated spaces in the list.
9.Move your cursor to the unallocated space and right click.
10. Now you see there is a choice, Click create.. more to come because i forgot what it says after that...
Note if can't wait, click help in the Disk Management console. On the search type Create Partition.
If i were you i would back up all of my data on a lot of cds. Just in case if something goes wrong. Your disk should be in simple volume. You will only use Dynamic if you are using RAID (if you create raid in windows) Learn more on the Microsoft for more info between simple and dynamic volumes and also how to create partition in the disk management console. (Windows 2000 and Windows XP can use the FAT32 partition. If you use the NTFS partition you will not be able to see your data if you insert a start up disk)!
Posted on Tuesday, October 7, 2003 - 7:29 pm:   

Use EZ drive to partition your hard drives. You will be able to download it on the website of your hard drive brand name. It partition and format your hard drive in seconds!!! and i do mean it. I partition and format my Western Digital ( 120GB hard drive about 3-4 seconds.

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