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Message |
Richard Ramos
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 9:06 am: | |
Hello:
I want to get a FASTER Processor for my system but don't know how to determine which one.
I assume I am limited by my Motherboard Type - I don't know what other limits exist.
I would like to upgrade to "at least" a 500MHz processor.
MY MACHINE:
Custom-built System ( Nimble Explorer XP )
*** Distributor Out-Of-Business ***
Intel Pentium II, MMX, 300MHz Processor
ENPC EP-KL21 v1.3 4PCI 3ISA Motherboard
96MB SDRAM ( Upgrading to 384MB SDRAM )
Quantum Bigfoot TX 12GB UDMA33 Hard Drive
1.44 Samsung Floppy Drive
Award BIOS ( 1998 )
ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X 4MB SGRAM Video Card (using 4.11.2560 Turbo Driver)
Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPI DVD-A02X 0105 CD_ROM Drive
(ADDING: Yamaha CD-RW 24x/10x/40x Internal Dive )
56K-Flex Rockwell PnP Internal Modem
PCI / DCS S727 Sound Card / Ensoniq AudioPCI
Wave 600 Sub-Woofer & 2-Speakers Sound System
Multimedia Microphone
PS/2 104-Key Win95 Compatible Keyboard
Microsoft IntelliMouse Trackball Mouse v4.0
VGA / MPEG / 95 OSR2 Video Chip
Smile 17" 0.26dp Digital Color Monitor
ATX Mid-Tower Computer Casing
Windows 95-C ( 4.03.1214 )
DirectX 8.0a
AOL 7.0 Internet Connection
MSN Internet Access 5.6.960 Internet Connection
Internet Explorer 5.50.4807.2300
Lexmark EX2 7200V Color Inkjet Printer
UMAX Astra 1200S Flat-Scanner
QUESTION:
How do I begin to figure out how to upgrade my PROCESSOR ????
Thank you for any help or guidance.
Richard |
Matt Weston (Matt12330)
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 9:59 am: | |
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but unless you are planning to use a Slot 1 celeron, you options are limited to 333 P2 mhz or under.
See http://support.enlightcorp.com.tw/ep-kl21.htm for specs on your board.
Supports for a single Intel Pentium II or Celeron processor
Supports 66/75/83 MHz host bus clock, selectable by BIOS
Slot 1 connector
Chipset (Intel 440LX AGPset and PCI/IDE)
An LX chipset won't support a 100 mhz FSB (front side bus).
The Celeron is an option, however Slot 1 Celerons are kind of rare anymore. The later models were released as a Slot 370. You can buy Slot 1 to Slot 370 adapters.
Also keep in mind that any Celeron over 533 mhz is going to run on a 100 mhz FSB - not supported by an LX board.
My best advice ? If you really want to upgrade past 500 mhz, you are going to have to replace your board and processor anyway, I would invest a little more money and go for a Pentium 4 or an Athlon XP. They cost a bit more, but you won't have to upgrade again as soon.
As a final note, most of the components that you listed were fine in the mid 90's, but have become dinosaurs since. A complete system might be a solution. I don't like pre-built systems, because I like to customize my machines, but it might be worth checking out - if the prices are right.
Good Luck |
E.S.
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 11:43 am: | |
Don't forget that after 500 MHZ, the celeron went from PPGA to a FCPGA Architecture at 66 MHZ FSB to the 800MHZ celeron which as Matt pointed out is at 100FSB FCPGA. So even to run a 533 Celeron you would not only need the Slot to socket adaptor but you would also need one that has onboard Vregulation for FCPGA or flipchip. |
Richard Ramos
| | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 5:52 pm: | |
Thank you MATT and E.S.:
I wondered when the time would come to get a whole NEW system.
I can see that NOW is the time. I am thinking of returning my "unopened" Yamaha CD-RW drive and put that $210 towards a NEW system.
Thank you for your "knowledgable" reply and important information.
I think I'll try to play with the "overclocking" idea for awhile first (after backing-up everything") and when my processor has had it - I'll go for the NEW system.
Gratefully yours,
RICH |
Richard Ramos
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 8:07 am: | |
Hello again:
I just wondered - could I use the following PROCESSOR on my present system . . .
INTEL CELERON PROCESSOR
Introduction date = April 26, 1999
Clock speeds = 466 MHz
Number of transistors = 19 million ( 0.25 micron process )
Cache: 128KB on-die packaging = Plastic Pin Array (PPGA), 370 pins
Bus speed = 66 MHz
Bus width = 64-bit system bus
Addressable Memory = 4GB
Typical use = Value PCs
Could my present system reach 466MHz with this CELERON and the ADAPTER you mentioned ?
If I stay UNDER 500MHz and use that ADAPTER - could I still use my present motherboard ??
Thanks for the help.
RICH |
E.S.
| | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 9:34 am: | |
A 466MHZ PPGA Celeron should work fine, the only issue might be whether the bios will detect it as a 466 MHZ, which, in my experience, is a cosmetic issue anyway as all new celerons are multiplier locked. Which type of adaptor are looking to get? Jumperable I hope. |
Richard Ramos
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 6:22 am: | |
Hello E.S.:
I don't know anything about the "ADAPTER" I should get. I was referring to the "adapter" MATT WESTON mentioned in the beginning of this POST . . . "Slot 1 to Slot 370 Adapter."
Do you think I can find a (SLOT 1) 466MHz Celeron Processor or will I have to get this ADAPTER ( I don't know if IT is "jumperable." )
Can you suggest the correct adapter for the Celeron 466MHz processor on my system?
Also, I am unsure of the meaning of "cosmetic issue" pertaining to the BIOS not detecting the processor as 466MHz. Does this mean there IS something I can do - if the BIOS doesn't detect the 466MHz . . . or what ??????
I realize my computer components are ancient - but they are still kicking and I'd like to get another year out of them if possible.
Thank you for your help and info - lost without it.
RICH |
E.S.
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 11:03 am: | |
The slot to socket adaptor is also what I was referring to as well. As to proper CPU detection, your mainboard bios determines what is shown at boot up, if a 466MHZ cpu is installed, but the bios only has 433 listed, the cpu may post as a 433 but still run at 466MHZ, a cosmetic issue with older LX boards. Slot1 466 Celerons are rare but available, but cost more than the socket 370. Asus and a few other manufacturers use a jumperable configuration with onboard Vregulators for running PPGA or FCPGA. The Asus is called Smart Slot1 series and you can probably pick one up for around 10 bucks. |
Richard Ramos
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 1:04 pm: | |
OK - E.S.:
Thanks for all the help and information.
I'll use your info and see what I can do.
Gratefully yours,
RICH |
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