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Posted on Thursday, May 2, 2002 - 9:57 am:   

My system is an Intel Pentium II 300MHz processor on a 440LX3 Rev1.4 motherboard
(core clock speed of 66MHz). I have 128MB SDRAM, a 20GB hard disk and a
Samsung 4Bni 14" monitor.
I recently put a new nVidia Riva TNT2 M64 (32MB AGP 2X/4X) graphics card.
However, I am not getting any kind of 3D acceleration (neither Direct 3D, nor Open GL).
Whenever I play start any game in hardware rendering mode, it hangs immediately after
playing the opening video. I get a blank screen with a tiny white dot in the top left corner
and after a few seconds, the PC restarts and I get an error message:
"Computer restarted after an unexpected shutdown.MS Windows detected a possible
device failure. The driver for the display device was unable to complete a drawing operation.
Please check with the device manufacturer for a driver update. The display driver for
nVidia Riva TNT2 Model 64 seems to be rsponsible for the system instability."
However, I have the proper drivers installed. Moreover, the same thing happens when
I perform the Direct 3D test in the DirectX diagnostic tool.
All my games play properly in the software rendering mode but with a poor frame rate.
Even while playing some movies, frame-skipping occurs. The reast of the display is fine.
The same thing happened even with an nVidia Riva TNT2 Vanta (8MB AGP) card,
which means the card is not faulty.
My previous graphics card was an S3 Virge GX/DX (2MB PCI). It wasn't a 3D accelerator
bur atleast all the movies played properly.
What could the problem be? Is the AGP port unable to deliver enough output? If yes, why?
Can the problem be solved without changing or upgrading any part of the system?
What exactly is the FSB? Can overclocking solve the problem? If yes, is it safe and how to do it?
Please help me.
Posted on Thursday, May 2, 2002 - 8:15 pm:   

You may want to consider a motherboard upgrade as the LX agp is of 1.0 spec and more than likely is not able to deliver the needed power the TNT2 M64 chipset requires to function properly. The Vanta and M64 both use similar cores so that would explain the Vanta's failure as well. Overclocking has helped others in the past by bumping up the FSB to the next available speed such as FSB 66MHZ to FSB 75MHZ but unfortunatly this will cause all other components to run out of specification and is not recommended.
Posted on Friday, May 3, 2002 - 5:09 am:   

Can replacing the TNT2 M64 chipset based card with a NVidia Riva TNT (32MB AGP) chipset based card help? or is that card too not suitable for the AGP 1.0 spec? Will the TNT chipset based card work properly? ( and deliver complete 3D acceleration?)
V (Vera)
Posted on Friday, May 3, 2002 - 1:47 pm:   

This is a good resource for Detonator drivers.
I'm running win98se and using the detonator 4 drivers. version 21.83 They are working problem free for me. Have you tried different drivers to see if a different version would be compatible with your system?


(having trouble getting it to form as a link. Copy and paste it to your address bar.)

I'm not familiar with the board you have. Are there drivers required for AGP compatibility?
My board has the VIA chipset using the VIA 4 in 1 drivers which includes the VIA AGP VxD driver required when using an AGP video card.
V (Vera)
Posted on Friday, May 3, 2002 - 2:36 pm:   

Just wondering which version of Directx your using.
Posted on Saturday, May 4, 2002 - 9:37 am:   

I am using DirectX 8.0. I also tried installing the detonator drivers. However after installalling them, my PC hanged (may be a file was problematic) and I had to remove them.
Is there a way to make a 2X/4X AGP card work on my AGP 1.0 spec. motherboard?
Posted on Saturday, May 4, 2002 - 9:30 pm:   

As far as I know the Standard TNT 128bit card will run properly on the LX chipset but only at 1X. Make sure you have at least a 250 watt power supply.
Posted on Sunday, May 5, 2002 - 2:06 am:   

E.S., you said that the TNT card will run properly only at 1X on my motherboard. Does this mean that the card won't deliver satisfactory performance? Would I be able to play games such as Need For Speed IV (High Stakes) in hardware rendering mode with almost all the features (such as Lens Flare) turned on and with a good frame rate and resolution? Will there be no frame-skipping while playing movies? What is your opinion?
Also, how do I find out the exact power supply of my PC?
Posted on Sunday, May 5, 2002 - 12:31 pm:   

The LX chipset only supports 1X AGP and the original TNT video card was a true 1X, 2X capable video card where some early TNT2 cards were 1X,2X and later in the class of cards (TNT2 pro, ultra, vanta, M64) were mainly designed for 2X and 4X AGP. If you can find a Creative TNT AGP card you should be O.K. with 1X mode but as far as using high res and 32 bit color at 1X in games like High Stakes, don't expect much.
Posted on Sunday, May 5, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   

Your PSU should have wattage info on a sticker somewhere.
Posted on Monday, May 6, 2002 - 6:25 am:   

To, E.S. and v (Vera),
Thank you very much for helping me with my problem. I've been stuck with it for quite some time now. I think I will go with the option of changing the graphis card instead of the motherboard. I will soon be trying out the TNT card.
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 8:36 pm:   

I enquired about the available TNT-based card to a hardware vendor. He said he had a MAXFORCE manufactured TNT-based 32MB AGP card. But he said
it is AGP 2X/4X based and does not work on AGP 1X. How likely is it that a TNT-based card does not work on AGP 1X motherboard?
Matt Weston (Matt12330)
Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 9:36 pm:   

The problem you are having isn't with the video card, it's with the AGP support on the motherboard. The card can't run at 2x or 4x if the rest of the system will not support the double or quadruple data transfer rate that a 2/4X AGP can provide.

....just my opinion, but I'd replace the mobo before the video card. Most newer boards will support the AGP 4X spec (double check before buying) and some are now offering 8X support.

If it helps you decide, consider this:
With an LX chipset(66 MHZ FSB), the fastest processor you'll be able to use is a 333 MHZ Pentium 2.
The newer offerings from Intel are approaching 10 times that speed, and will likely continue to increase. IMHO - it's time.
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 8:15 pm:   

I can't play a PURE PINBALL game because it requires GEFORCE TI or some kind of that.For your knowledge my display driver is NVIDIA RIVA TNT 2 M64. so, how to solve the problem without changing my display driver. Thanks.

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