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Linda Chinook
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 9:59 am:   

I have a 1 year old 6G 350 Pentium II with about 110 programs on it...which came with the computer. I recently had it reblasted, but that did not help. What happens is: after the computer has been on for a couple of hours and I try to use the Internet, it 'tires out' fast....gets progressively slower until it takes forever to make a connection or download a page, then loses the connection after a couple of minutes. I have had to attempt to download the same page due to connection loss(unsuccessfully)as often as 6 trys in 10 minutes. I finally quit in frustration.

But if I go to WordPerfect or another program after this, that program often acts up....freezes etc.

However, if I reboot or shutdown for 5 minutes, it is good for another 2 hours or so. If I don't use the 'net the computer seems ok....though I don't really use it as much.
Thanks for any help.
win
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 5:39 pm:   

have you run the defrag utility? set it to check for errors, then run it. i'm assuming you don't have win98 on it, but if you do, then in the options, do not check the box for reordering the drive. only defrag first, then you can have it reorder the drive using it's app file. then reboot. you should have a little more ooomph.
win
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2000 - 5:41 pm:   

oh. also empty your c:\windows\temp folder and clear your internet cache. that would slow it down, too.
Linda Chinook
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2000 - 6:33 am:   

Thanks Win, but the hard drive was totally stripped and reblasted one week ago with no improvement. :( Defrag and emptying caches etc. make no difference.
Linda
Rahmat
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2000 - 5:24 pm:   

Linda -

It sounds like you have problem with your cpu, it is over-heating. Open up your computer check if you have a cpu-fan and is it running. If not get a heat-sink + fan for your cpu. Sounds a classical case of over-heating. Good luck
barney
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2000 - 11:11 pm:   

Hi,

If it was your CPU fan you would know about it believe me. If it gets too hot it doesn't just slow down it would crash all over the place, with a faulty CPU fan you are lucky to make it into windows. You would have to be very unlucky to have a fan that grinds to a halt every two hours thats for sure.

barney
Linda Chinook
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2000 - 11:56 pm:   

It is the strangest thing.....I was just on-line for a couple of hours when it stopped downloading altogether. So I logged off and clicked 'reset'. The system froze at the Windows (shutdown)logo. I pressed Ctrl, Alt, Del 5 or 6 times...no response. I hit the reset button and it rebooted, no problem. I went straight back to the Internet...no problem here either.

Also, the length of time I get to keep my computer on is directly linked to the no. of files I have on the harddrive and how long I am on the Internet.
eg If I take off all my personal files...about 40MB worth and leave the 110 programs (which leaves me about 85% free..of 6Gb), I can last about 2 days....4-6 hours (total) on the 'net. Put them back on and I am good for only a couple of hours!
Beats me!....
win
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2000 - 1:21 pm:   

hmmm. try going into safe mode. reboot your computer and just when it shows the "starting windows 9x" line, hit f8. this should bring up the start menu. select safe mode. when you get into it, select scandisk. select the advanced tab.

on the options, display summary: select always
log file: append to log
crosslinked files: make copies
lost file fragments: convert to files
check files for:invalid file names
invalid dates and times
duplicate names
check host drive first
report ms-dos mode name length errors

check these options.

then pick drive c: run scandisk.

see what it picks up. if you have any other drives, run it on them, too.

then, look in device manager and see if there are more devices than what you really have. these would be "ghost devices" that cannot be seen by you in normal windows mode. if there are any, these might cause problems. as far as scandisk is concerned, you would probably be the judge of what it should fix, i wouldn't have it "automatically fix errors" as i have had instances when it fixed something that wasn't broken. had more problems. so, just see what comes up and post back here what you found. i'm sure others would need this info as well as myself in order to help the best we can.
win
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2000 - 11:29 am:   

oh. i forgot to add yesterday that you should check what backround programs you have in operation. hit "ctrl+alt+del" and your programs should be visible. if you have too many and some are not necessary except for convenience, temporarily shut them down by selecting them one at a time and hit "end task". see if that helps.

also, how much memory do you have. was your computer bought at a store? ie: is there an oem? there might be something they could do if it's still under warranty.
Trish
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2000 - 9:27 pm:   

You don't by chance have a Umax scanner hooked up to your computer, do you? Or any kind of networking?
Dave
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2000 - 2:50 am:   

Sounds like a 'memory leak' to me, related somehow to your browser. Take a look at your system monitor to see if your memory usage is out of line with what you might expect. If an application is using all of your physical memory and forcing excessive swapping to your hard drive, you will see an attendant loss of performance. There are many possible causes for this; I'd try a search on "memory leak" at microsoft.com and see if anything jumps out at you. Netscape can cause problems like this if you set the 'history' expiration to a very long period of time in preferences. Hope this is helpful...
SmashOgre
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2000 - 9:55 am:   

Try this too:

On your desktop Right click My Computer>>Properties>>Performance Tab, ensure that it says "Your system is configured for optimal performance" Go to the Device Manager Tab, make sure that there are no exclamation points next to any categories or devices. If either in Performance it says that you have a disk drive using compatibility mode, or in Device Manager you have something exclamated, fix this and you should be ok, what would need to be fixed could be about anything so I will not try to explain that yet. If you find one of those two (or both) situations, email me or post again and we'll go from there. If none of those items apply, then I would suspect a virus of some kind, most likely a trojan. Next to that I would suspect possibly a bad hard drive or bad ram. Make sure all the expansion cards are still seated firmly and evenly within their slots, also make sure of the same for the ram modules. Have you added any hardware since you bought the machine ? Are you running anything like Norton System Works or PCTools or any other "monitoring" program ? Also whilst in the Performance Tab of "My Computer" Properties, make sure that Windows is handling virtual memory and that it is enabled.
Danny Albers
Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2000 - 1:15 pm:   

I refer to your original post

Do you have a motorola win modem? I have seen this problem lots with these.

Also, your modem may be the one overheating, not your cpu.

Try to borrow a modem for a few days, and try that one instead.

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